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     楼主| 发表于 2010-5-29 17:54:19 | 显示全部楼层
    By the way, do you know how to start with hidden race ?
    200% difficulty, more than 2× growth rate of neutral monster,
    the password is "Yunings" or "Woodmelon" or "Gamerhome"
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     楼主| 发表于 2010-5-29 18:27:27 | 显示全部楼层
    原帖由 Salamandre 于 2010-5-29 17:53 发表
    I was kidding about the tent, who cares, game is over, I won vs Xarfax easy.
    Now starting the last test, with the hidden race.Any hints of what it does? it says this but not sure I get the righttrans ...


    Congratulations!



    变形对追随者,宠物,召唤的生物,机器,吸星大法的生物,鬼魂均无效
    Transformation is invalid for Henchmen, commander, summoned creatures, machines, the creature with ghost ability, ghost.

    每个部队都有3次变化机会,变化后原部队所有状态均保留,但可能会得到新生物的一些特技:如圣龙恐惧,天使复活,凤凰重生,蛮牛死亡凝视,紫龙和灯神施法等。
    Each stack has 3 chances to transform. All state will be reserved after transformation, and may get some ability of new creature, such as scare of azure dragon, resurrection fo angel, casting of fairy dragon.

    但十字军的双击,恶魔不反击未必会有效
    But "attack twice" of crusade, and "no retaliatation" of Devil, may not valid after transformation

    肉搏生物变成远程生物仅能得到5枚箭,单格/双格生物不能相互变化
    if  combated creatures transform to ranged creatures, they can get only 5 shots.small size creatures can't be transformed to big size creatures, and vice versa.

    可变化的生物等级与英雄等级成正比,6级生物增加1,如此类推.
    every 6 levels the herose upgrades, the level of creature can be transformed increases by 1.

    ____________________________________________________
    Sorry I don't know how to translate these instructions more clear.

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    发表于 2010-5-29 18:30:11 | 显示全部楼层
    Thanks, I will check what it does. Yes, I know how to start with hidden race, map is fully translated by now, but I need to ask one of my students which is chinese to help me on technical terms, as cataclasm, stunt, and many others. I wrote to Yunings and asked a short review of the story.
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     楼主| 发表于 2010-5-29 18:39:10 | 显示全部楼层
    碎裂 = cataclasm = smash
    I don't know which is correct.

    For both of below translations, you'd better check the original scripts about commander.

    ^宠物足够强大后有20%机率给敌人打消某些特技^;

    some ability of commander will be ignored with 20% chance after it is strong enough

    Commander is strong enough after the 20% probability to the enemy to dispel some of the stunt

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    发表于 2010-5-30 19:45:59 | 显示全部楼层
    Umm, I am playing Lord Haart with hidden race. I tried the gorgon thing and it pays very well. I have suit of invincibility, all the orbs, I visited Catherine, Roland, killed Tyris but I can't trigger open doors for dragons.  What do I need to do?
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    发表于 2010-5-30 20:12:07 | 显示全部楼层
    I got it. Haart must visit the mystical garden at 97/32/0 to trigger neutral city enabled. Once the city is mine, Roland will fight. That's strange because in some games the Neutral City could be taken early game but now it was disabled until  the end. What is the story of the neutral city?
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     楼主| 发表于 2010-5-30 20:29:00 | 显示全部楼层
    Oh, my god, don't tickle me.
    111.jpg

    The stories of hidden races are the same as those of normal races.

    end of red player:

    visit the 4 towers,
    go back to Roland,
    visit one of the tower again
    kill the champions
    kill the angel
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    原帖由 Salamandre 于 2010-5-30 20:12 发表
    I got it. Haart must visit the mystical garden at 97/32/0 to trigger neutral city enabled. Once the city is mine, Roland will fight. That's strange because in some games the Neutral City could be take ...
    maybe it was too near to the hell, and was controlled by devil.

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    发表于 2010-5-30 21:12:55 | 显示全部楼层
    原帖由 songfx 于 2010-5-30 20:29 发表

    The stories of hidden races are the same as those of normal races.

    end of red player:

    visit the 4 towers,
    go back to Roland,
    visit one of the tower again
    kill the champions
    kill the angel



    No, once you visit the fourth tower you don't need to get back to Roland, if you press space bar on the last tower it sends you to the angel. I need to know exact order because I will add some hints in translation, as I can't find them in chinese dialog (either I can't translate properly or there aren't hints).

    Btw, I killed also the ghost Boss, but never could find the Phoenix boss. Is him only for a special player or it is random visit?
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     楼主| 发表于 2010-5-30 23:01:11 | 显示全部楼层
    clear the object in sea
    water walk to the entrance( the road will get through )
    go to the undead bird
    be sent to phoenix




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    How could I know?

    Thanks:)
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    原帖由 Salamandre 于 2010-5-31 00:13 发表


    How could I know?

    Thanks:)

    If everyone knows it , it can not be called hidden boss.
    OK, if you like, you can add some hints somewhere.

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    发表于 2010-6-6 22:27:12 | 显示全部楼层
    Waiting for the 10th of this month, one of my chinese students will be back from China and he will help me. Not guaranteed will be perfect but at least foreign players will be able to get their hands on this fantastic map.

    Btw, I can't win against any monster (day one) on difficulty 3-4, any race.
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     楼主| 发表于 2010-6-7 01:04:52 | 显示全部楼层
    Here is the tutorial of first battels in highest difficulty for all races.
    http://bbs.h3wog.com/viewthread. ... p%3Bfilter%3Ddigest
    Hope it is not too difficult for you to understand.

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    发表于 2010-6-7 01:33:01 | 显示全部楼层
    I don't know how he does. I see he launches spells as titan lightning, he has 92 hobgoblins in another, 14 vampires lords. When I play, all neutrals days one have no retal, fire shield (often), they fly, they attack all around etc. Speed at least 9-10, there is no way to hide or protect. A true nightmare.

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    发表于 2010-6-9 04:35:46 | 显示全部楼层
    Most of things are properly translated but I stuck on a few phrases. Any help/hints please?

    VRz11:S^宠物足够强大后有20%机率给敌人打消某些特技^;  Does this mean that if pet is too strong, creatures will snatch one of his abilities 20% chance? How it works, what is the correct meaning?
    !!VRz1:S^野兵生命增长因子重新设置^;        does this mean we can reset the growth once the game started?  
    !!VRz2:S^
    取消选择则返回默认值(每周增长 1/8)^;
    how this works?
    !!VRz10&v1=2:S^电脑方英雄每5天攻防伤均增加1点,生命增加1/10HP
    50的生物生命为50。其每周增加后的生物总数量限制:
    500,六级1000,五级1500,其他5000。游戏开始时每颜
    色有10个八级生物,且会自动习得除了屏蔽外的任何魔法。  I can' t translate this properly, what means in general?
    5.显示生物巢穴隐藏文本(右键查看己方生物巢穴)same here
    !!VRz10&v1=256:S^每种颜色都只能雇佣同种族的英雄
    除开局英雄外其他所有英雄必须雇佣宠物
    与英雄同种族的生物能得到额外属性加乖
    5级同族生物攻防伤均增加1
    每级同族生物的生命增加1%
    速度恒定增加1,宠物无法得到加乖效果^; This also, can't find the sense
    !!VRz10&v1=1024:S^只有选择野兵加强模式后才能出现剧情
    八个颜色九个剧情(青色有两个结局)
    每个颜色的剧情最终BOSS都是不同的
    另外有两个隐藏BOSS任何颜色都可触发
    大部分剧情原创者为yunings,特此感谢!^; same here

    !!VRz10&w34=0:S^看什么看,没见过美女龙吗?^; This one too

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     楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 23:06:19 | 显示全部楼层
    VRz11:S^宠物足够强大后有20%机率给敌人打消某些特技^;  Does this mean that if pet is too strong, creatures will snatch one of his abilities 20% chance? How it works, what is the correct meaning?
    I thinks so, but I don't know how it works.

    !!VRz1:S^野兵生命增长因子重新设置^;        does this mean we can reset the growth once the game started?  
    Yes, reset the HP growth rate


    !!VRz2:S^
    取消选择则返回默认值(每周增长 1/8)^;how this works?
    If you choose "esc", the growth rate is default 1/8 every week. ( HP of neutral creature increase 1/8 every week.)
    I think this function is not difficult, though I know little about ERM.

    !!VRz10&v1=2:S^电脑方英雄每5天攻防伤均增加1点,生命增加1/10HP50的生物生命为50。其每周增加后的生物总数量限制:500,六级1000,五级1500,其他5000。游戏开始时每颜色有10个八级生物,且会自动习得除了屏蔽外的任何魔法。  I can' t translate this properly, what means in general?
    For AI heroes, every 5 days, their attack and defence increase by 1, HP increase by 1/10. If the HP is lower than 50, their HP will be increased to 50. Troops of AI heroe will increase every week, but the total number will not be more than 500 for level 7 creature, 1000 for level 6, 1500 for level 5, 5000 for others. Each player gets 10 level 8 monster, the AI hereos learn all spells, except the banned magics.

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    发表于 2010-6-11 00:45:10 | 显示全部楼层
    Ah, AI players, I translated it as neutrals, now I see better. Thanks a lot.

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    发表于 2010-6-12 05:16:55 | 显示全部楼层
    There is one word nobody can translate:
    !!VRz10:S^[wiki]鬼[/wiki]族,我要你血债血偿!        目前还是赶紧想个办法灭掉鬼族吧!^;

    It gives:
    !! VRz10: S ^ Guizu, I want you blood for blood! Quickly find a way to exterminate Guizu is still right! ^;

    Someone can tell me what is this Guizu Google brings me thousand times?
    Guizu=?

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    Salamandre,wog has 9 forces,"Guizu" is  "Undead force",chinese players used to say "Guizu": )

    "Gui"means"Ghost", "Zu"means"force".
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