"The 300 Spartans" WoG scenario

Shbher

原帖由 Salamandre 于 2009-9-7 14:11 发表
Shbher, give me email, I have portrait for Charis.
I don't know why Apoph...does not work in Chinese version. Maybe a keyboard problem? I can explain you how to make this quest work with chinese char ...

OK,my email is
tuten2000@sohu.com
Thanks for your help.
Save data...this is annex.But you need move Gorgo to the statue,I moved her when I attempt to meet new quest.
But,Does the Chinese version can work in your computer?Look forward to your conduct.
And...Please tell me how to do with Apoph...quest.
Thank you again.

[ 本帖最后由 Shbher 于 2009-9-7 16:15 编辑 ]

Shbher

原帖由 jiangjinyong123 于 2009-9-7 15:19 发表
我也想要，恳请给我发一个 jiangxilaike123@163.net

Sorry,不知道为什么，我的搜狐邮箱的所有邮件包括存档全部被失踪了，不知道是密码被盗了还是搜狐乱搞……
再上传太费神了，所以不好意思，就请手头有的筒子发给你了。

Salamandre

Shbher: indeed the chinese version does not work here properly. The quest log  is screwed, and Apoph...does not work.

Can you find a chinese player who can translate that script in [wiki]ERM[/wiki]? It is not so hard, he just has to figure how Plutarch puzzle works

!!IF&v108=0:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _}^;
!!IF&v108=1:M^{A _ o _ h _ _ _ _ _ _ m _ t _}^;
!!IF&v108=2:M^{_ p _ p _ _ _ _ _ _ a _ _}^;
!!IF&v108=3:M^{_ _ o _ _ _ h _ _ m _ _ _}^;
!!IF&v108=4:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ g _ _ t _}^;
!!IF&v108=5:M^{_ p _ _ h _ _ _ g _ a _ _}^;
!!IF&v108=6:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ t _ e _ m _ _ _}^;
!!IF&v108=7:M^{_ _ _ p _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _}^;
!!IF&v108=8:M^{_ _ _ _ _ t _ _ _ _ _ _ _}^;
!!IF&v108=9:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ _ e _ _ _ _ a}^;
!!IF&v108=10:M^{_ _ _ _ h _ _ _ _ _ _ t _}^;

Every "_" means one missing letter. I know that chinese alphabet is different, means you have a sign for more than one letter. He will need to recreate the script using "_" as more letters meaning.

If you can't find one player to script this, I can change the quest to ask something else, but it will be less interesting. To script this you need to find someone with basic scripting knowledge, it is not difficult.

Shbher

It need Songfx(风侠大人) and yunings（长晕大人）to do this quest.My energe is in low level...

songfx

I have upload it on the first post.
已上传地图（内部测试版），请到首帖下载。

Shbher

Salamandre:
With cheat I finished this wonderful scenario yesterday evening.then two new doubt section occoured:
1.Only Gorgo jion in the Life order could enable Sostratos' quest?I jioned the Death order,Sostratos and his lover disregarded their queen.
2.Agatha:
   If I visit the idol of fortune after any one of swan,faerie,mermaids and flag,It is fortune effect would be disappear,then only 8 fortune bless Gorgo.But when I visit idol of fortune before the other four +1 objects,Gorgo recieved 9 fortune...and win the bet.
   Can you tell me why?Thanks.

[ 本帖最后由 Shbher 于 2009-9-9 13:16 编辑 ]

Salamandre

1)Yes, the fountain of luck is scripted to give luck ONLY if your luck is 0.

The text:
"This fountain will provide luck only to those who are really unlucky!". It was done to make the quest more difficult, not only visit anything to boost. So the player has to start with fountain, then visit all others.
You can add this detail for those who need in a chinese read me?

2) Only a life order applicant can fulfill the Sostratos quest, as Philomena is asking for diplomacy (charming messenger)

3) Find for me a 8-9 chinese characters word/phrase without spaces and I will make again for you the Plutarch quest...directly in chinese. I can't use chinese characters in english version but I will assign to each one a variable and explain you how to do it in chinese version.

[ 本帖最后由 Salamandre 于 2009-9-9 13:37 编辑 ]

神圣凤凰

What should I do after finish the quest in arcane tower?

Salamandre

Which quest is that?

Shbher

To Salamandre:
1).After translate,The Chinese text of Fountain of luck have no problem. What I asked for you is about IDOL of fortune...
2).Chinese phrase...ehh...“犯强汉者虽远必诛”,I (perhaps all Chinese)like it.
Thanks for your comment.

Salamandre

Ok, make a backup of 300 then replace the Plutarch script with this : (I removed conditions so you can visit it on first day, visit the statue first)

If it does not work, that means the chinese characters are not recognized by WoG variables, so I don't know how to fix it.

!#VRz247:S^犯强汉者虽远必诛^;  **REPLACE this in "Set Names" script (find the !#VRz247:S^Apophthegmata^; and replace with this)


Now replace the Plutarch script with:

ZVSE

!#VRz315:S^Artemis^;
!#OB35/39/1:Hz315;
!#IF:V119/0;

!#OB35/39/1:S; **Artemis statue
!?OB35/39/1;            ** this was removed for test&v654>16;
!!IF&-119:M^Welcome, passer-by.  An invisible door is located near here but only those who know the password can enter the passage of wonders behind it.  Plutarch the great historian found the password and bequeathed it to posterity, but few now read his works.  Pheiton, a student of Plutarch, may be the last.  I will open the passage only if you bring me the password.^;
!!QW:A145/29/2/-1; **remove G quest
!!QW&-119:A41/29/2/248; **give quest
!!IF:V119/1;
!!OB35/39/1:R;**enable sign
!$OB91;
!!SG998:M?z1; **current sign text

!!VRz2:S^^;
!!VRz3:S^Enter the magic word:^;
!!IF:D25/2/3/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0;
!!IF:F25/0/0/0/0/1;
!!IF:E1/25;
!!VRz1:H5; **check if text entered, flag 5=1 if yes
!!SG998&5:M^%Z1^; **set new text if text was entered
!!IF&z1=z247:V216/1;
!!IF&z1<>z247:M^Not strong enough at ancient Greek, are you?^;
!!IF&216:M^Eureka!^;
!!QW&216:A41/29/2/-1; **remove quest
!!HE29&216:P59/9/1;
!!VRz315&216:S^{Artemis (completed)}^;
!!VRz817&216:S^{Peithon (completed)}^;
!!OB38/44/1&216:SHz817;

!?OB38/44/1&119;
!!VRv108:S0;
!!VRv108:R8; **generate a random value between 0 and 8 and adds to v108
!!IF&-120:M^Greetings, I am Pheiton, an aging scholar of Greek history.  You wish to find a password recorded by the great Plutarch?  I have all his writings, and know the page where the word is written but my eyes and memory have begun to fail me, and I can only make out a few letters depending on the hour of the day and how the light strikes the page.  I will do my best.  You may ask me to try again, and although I may not remember you I may see more on the next try. ^;
!!IF&120/v108>=1:M^Greetings, I am Pheiton - oh, you know me?  The ancient password?  Strangely I just happen to be at the exact page in Plutarch's "Lives".  Let's see what are those letters - how they dance before my old eyes:^;
!!IF:V120/1;

!!IF&v108=0:M^{犯 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=1:M^{_ _ 汉 _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=2:M^{_ _ _ _ 虽 _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=3:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ _ 诛 }^;
!!IF&v108=4:M^{_ _ _ _ _远 _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=5:M^{_ 强 _ _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=6:M^{_ _ _ 者 _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=7:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=8:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ 必 _ }^;
**End of script

For your idol of fortune all I can guess is that you had a battle after visiting it/or before and your luck was reseted to zero. All those bonuses vanish if you have a battle-reload autosave if Gorgo is attacked by orders when doing this quest. I can't see others reasons, because the editor says +1 luck from idol. If you can't get it, maybe WoG bug? In my tests I always got it.

[ 本帖最后由 Salamandre 于 2009-9-9 16:22 编辑 ]

神圣凤凰

原帖由 Salamandre 于 2009-9-9 14:58 发表
Which quest is that?

Gorgo will be teleport to a small island,and a soceress lives there.Gorgo has to steal the key to get in the tower,and the magic book to get back.
After that,Gorgo will be teleport back to the arcane tower,but when I visit the arcane tower again,it will start the quest again.
What should I do then?

[ 本帖最后由 神圣凤凰 于 2009-9-9 17:26 编辑 ]

Salamandre

Did you receive a money reward? Have you the latest version from Maps4heroes.com?  Normally after doing the quest, the tower is set to "visited" and you can't do the quest again until next month.

But if you already received 10 000 gold then the quest is over and you can do others.

神圣凤凰

The "Ouch" difficulty is really insane...
First Wave is easy and can be defeated without any loss.
But when the Second Attack of Second Wave starts,things changes rapidly.
And it's rather difficult to deal with those pitlords...
After this attack I lost most of the troops,and cannot hold on any longer.
Also I see some artifact and magic merchant above,but those really cost much.
Do you have any suggestions?

Salamandre

The fight with pitlords can be done with zero loss. Just use well your "every turn" archers clones to block the possible paths to your creatures. If you split archers in 6, you will have 6 clones every turn to place in holes. Thats all. Sometimes it can turn bad if the pits have morale on first turn, just reload. Once you kill a group, place a clone on the dead corpse so the remaining pits can't resurrect it and surround it as well with clones (just in case)

I finished the map on "ouch" level with 400 spartans alive, and was not hard at all. In fact the spartans are still the best creature in the game, even on Ouch. Giving the bless makes a 80 damage which is huge. Use teleport often to take them back

Example:

Spartans split: xxx, 1.

Attack melee with xxx, and when the single spartans turn, teleport back the xxx.

If can't succeed then send me a save before the fight and I will post screens about strategy.

[ 本帖最后由 Salamandre 于 2009-9-10 09:28 编辑 ]

Shbher

error...edited...

[ 本帖最后由 Shbher 于 2009-9-10 13:38 编辑 ]

Shbher

I am sorry,Salamandre,
1):Because of my careless,I translated Apophthegmata into Chinese"{苦行者}"that in the "Set names"script,So long translation work make me ataxic,I forgeted that I had change the answer of Artimes quest...
It is my wrong,not the Chinese version.and make you anxious.Sorry.

[ 本帖最后由 Shbher 于 2009-9-10 13:38 编辑 ]

Salamandre

Any way, using my example you can use a chinese phrase instead Apop... It will work  then, up to you to choose. Maybe a humorous phrase or such?

Mainly because chinese is rather different no? I mean what is the chinese sign for "A"? "P"? "O"? You use a chinese sign for several letters? Then the whole scripts needs chinese adapt. Try the chinese version and tell me if it works.

If 苦行者 means Apophthegmata, then it will not work, as my english script needs 13 letters/signs. Replace with
!#VRz247:S^犯强汉者虽远必诛^;  then in Plutarch script replace with:

!!IF&v108=0:M^{犯 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=1:M^{_ _ 汉 _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=2:M^{_ _ _ _ 虽 _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=3:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ _ 诛 }^;
!!IF&v108=4:M^{_ _ _ _ _远 _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=5:M^{_ 强 _ _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=6:M^{_ _ _ 者 _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=7:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ }^;
!!IF&v108=8:M^{_ _ _ _ _ _ 必 _ }^;  and tell me if it works correctly when entering 犯强汉者虽远必诛

Do not forget the:
!!VRv108:S0;
!!VRv108:R8; **generate a random value between 0 and 8 and adds to v108

as in the english version the random value is between 0 and 13. In chinese version you will need between 0 and 8.

[ 本帖最后由 Salamandre 于 2009-9-10 16:45 编辑 ]

Shbher

Oh,It's difficult  to explain the different between Chinese and English,though they are originated from different civilizations.
1):In China "A","P","O"... are mostly used as Pinyin and something come from English world that can't translationed exactly,such as names(e.g.Salamandre,in Chinese,it have serval different styles,萨拉曼达，撒尔曼德,etc.)and placenames.
2):But when I put in "{苦行者}" in the Artemis quest box,Artemis is enabled and Gorgo gained her gift.Why?
P.S."犯强汉者虽远必诛" is written by a famous general of HAN Dyasty named Chen Tang（陈汤）,When he killed the Huns Chief leader,In the present memorial to the throne,he wrote down this famous sentence. In fact it must be called slogan,which encouraged all Chinese to fight against enemies for thousand years.

[ 本帖最后由 Shbher 于 2009-9-11 17:56 编辑 ]

magicfox

500 or 5000,I see 500 in English version.